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{{#Wiki_filter:Page 1 NRC FORM 699                                                    U.S. NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION       DATE (9-2003 )
CONTACTEDORINCONTACTWITHYOUSeebelow ORGANIZAT ION PG&E.HoUec SUBJECT Clarification of Responses to Diablo Canyonsitespecific ISFSILAR#1 I TELEPHONE NO.805-545-4162 TIME 3:30pm
10/07/2009 CONVERSATION RECORD                                                  TIME 3:30pm NAME OF PERSON(S) CONTACTED OR IN CONTACT WITH YOU                              TELEPHONE NO.
See below                                                                      I      805-545-4162 ORGANIZAT ION PG&E. HoUec SUBJECT Clarification of Responses to Diablo Canyon site specific ISFSI LAR #1


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PacificGasand Electric (PG&E)-Rich Hagler, Greg Heggli, Larry ParkerT, Chris Pendleton, hrl StricklandHoltec-Adam Kabo, Kelly Kozink, Tammy Morin, Evan Rosenbaum Contacted PG&E to I.Clarify several RAI responses provided on September1,2009.2.Discussthe confusion regarding the Diablo Canyon (DC)referencestothe Holtec generically licensed HI-STORM 100 MPC32,andDC's intenttoutilizea9" shortened versionofthe standard MPC 32.3.Thetimelineofthe changeofthe MPC32designin relationtoLAR1 and the June2008FSAR revision update.4.Have PG&E explainwhythe changeinthe MPC32designwasnot addressed 1 referencedintheLAR.5.Discuss editorial discrepancies on several pages.Proprietary stamps were provided on severalpagesonone attachment that was non-proprietary.
Pacific Gas and Electric (PG&E)- Rich Hagler, Greg Heggli, Larry ParkerT, Chris Pendleton,hrl Strickland Holtec - Adam Kabo, Kelly Kozink, Tammy Morin, Evan Rosenbaum Contacted PG&E to I.Clarify several RAI responses provided on September 1, 2009.
6.PG&E'sneedto provide a separate Proprietary Affidavitforitsspecific proprietary documents.
2.Discuss the confusion regarding the Diablo Canyon (DC) references to the Holtec generically licensed HI-STORM 100 MPC 32, and DC 's intent to utilize a 9" shortened version of the standard MPC 32.
PG&E had provided onlytheHoltec Proprietary Affidavit for HoUec's proprietary portionoftheRAI response.Discussion 1.1 askedDCto identify new informationintheRAI responses thatwasnot providedinthebaseLAR.Ihad reviewed theLARalongwiththeRAIsandRAI responsesandwas having difficulty determining whatspecificnew information was provided versus what was just clarification.
3.The time line of the change of the MPC 32 design in relation to LAR 1 and the June 2008 FSAR revision update.
Mostofthenew information pertained discussedtheeffectofthe reduction of the standard MPC32by9"andtheeffect thathadonthethermal,hydraulic and confinement evaluations.
4.Have PG&E explain why the change in the MPC 32 design was not addressed 1 referenced in the LAR.
PG&E stated thatitwas their belief thattheyhadmostly clarified information that had been previously providedinthe originalLAR.I asked PG&E to'provide a table showing the RAlsalongwiththe references to information providedinthe originalLAR.I also clarified the materialsRAIs#12,13,and14.The NRC's RAI request of April9,2009, requested that PG&Erevisethe FSAR to clarifyspecificitems.The intentofthe RAlswasfor PG&E to provide responsestospecific situations,andthen commit to revising the FSARinthe future to include these responses.
5.Discuss editorial discrepancies on several pages. Proprietary stamps were provided on several pages on one attachment that was non-proprietary.
Therefore, PG&E responsestoRAIs12 ,13,and14will become regulatory commitments.
6.PG&E's need to provide a separate Proprietary Affidavit for its specific proprietary documents. PG&E had provided only the Holtec Proprietary Affidavit for HoUec's proprietary portion of the RAI response.
Continue on Page 2ACTIONREQUIRED PG&E to providecopyof10 CFR 72.48 evaluationsusedin adopting a shortened version ofMPC 32 PG&E to provide affadavit for their proprietary responses.NAMEOFPERSONDOCUMENTING CONVERSATION John GoshenACTIONTAKEN I SIGNATURE1/DATE 10/30/2009 Reviewed 10 CFR 72.48 evaluations and forwarded to Thermal and Containment Branch PG&E provided affadavit on 10/28/09.TITLEOFPERSONTAKINGACTION Proiect ManaaerNRCFORM699(9-2003
Discussion 1.1 asked DC to identify new information in the RAI responses that was not provided in the base LAR. I had reviewed the LAR along with the RAIs and RAI responses and was having difficulty determining what specific new information was provided versus what was just clarification. Most of the new information pertained discussed the effect of the reduction of the standard MPC 32 by 9" and the effect that had on the thermal, hydraulic and confinement evaluations. PG&E stated that it was their belief that they had mostly clarified information that had been previously provided in the original LAR. I asked PG&E to 'provide a table showing the RAls along with the references to information provided in the original LAR. I also clarified the materials RAIs #12, 13, and 14. The NRC's RAI request of April 9, 2009, requested that PG&E revise the FSAR to clarify specific items. The intent of the RAls was for PG&E to provide responses to specific situations, and then commit to revising the FSAR in the future to include these responses. Therefore, PG&E responses to RAIs 12, 13, and 14 will become regulatory commitments.
)ISIGNATUREOFPERSONTAKINGACTION DATE 10/30/2009PRINTEDONREC YCLED PAPER Page2 CONVERSATION RECORD (Continued)
Continue on Page 2 ACTION REQUIRED PG&E to provide copy of 10 CFR 72.48 evaluations used in adopting a shortened version ofMPC 32 PG&E to provide affadavit for their proprietary responses.
NAME OF PERSON DOCUMENTING CONVERSATION John Goshen ISIGNATURE      ~      1/                         DATE 10/30/2009 ACTION TAKEN Reviewed 10 CFR 72.48 evaluations and forwarded to Thermal and Containment Branch PG&E provided affadavit on 10/28/09.
TITLE OF PERSON TAKING ACTION                        ISIGNATURE OF PERSON TAKING ACTION                DATE Proiect Manaaer                                                                                                10/30/2009 NRC FORM 699 (9-2003)                                                                                     PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER
 
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(C ontinue onPage3)2.Holtec stated that during the original licensing processofthe HI-STORM 100 systemitwas decidednottospecifyadesign heightofanyofthe proposed MPCs.Thiswastoallowfor differentsitespecific requirements.
(Continue on Page 3) 2.Holtec stated that during the original licensing process of the HI-STORM 100 system it was decided not to specify a design height of any of the proposed MPCs. This was to allow for different site specific requirements. The height used in the original analyses was 170 ". Holtec's intent was to allow users the flexibility to vary the height for their specific applications, and then either perform bounding analyses or have Holtec provide specific site specific calculations. Therefore PG&E's continued references to an MPC-32 as approved in HI-STORM 100 general license certificate 1014 amendment 1 is correct even though the height was reduced by 9" to meet DC's requirements. In its original license application DC intended to use the " target" MPC 32 which required DC to transport the MPC horizontally out the spent fuel building hatch. In 2007 DC made the decision to change to a shortened model that would allow it to transport the MPC vertically. This change was performed under 10 CFR 72.48 per DC's Licensing Basis Impact Evaluations (LBIEs) program. LBIE 2008-16 approved the 9" MPC-32 height reduction. During the process of preparing the LBIEs, Jearl Strickland and Terry Grebel (ISFSI Project Licensing Manager) discussed the modifications with Randy Hall, who was the NRC Project Manager at that time, and his staff. I requested that PG&E provide me the applicable HI-STORM 100 and ISFSI 10 CFR 72.48 evaluations.
The heightusedinthe original analyseswas170".Holtec's intentwastoallow userstheflexibilityto vary the height for their specific applications,andthen either perform bounding analyses or have Holtec providespecificsitespecific calculations.
3.As stated above PG&E decided in 2007 to change to a shorter MPC that would allow for vertical transportation through the spent fuel building hatch.
Therefore PG&E's continued referencestoan MPC-32 as approved in HI-STORM 100 general license certificate 1014 amendment1is correct even though the height was reducedby9"tomeet DC's requirements.Inits original license application DC intendedtouse the"target" MPC32which requiredDCto transport the MPC horizontallyoutthe spent fuel building hatch.In2007DC madethedecisionto changetoa shortened model thatwouldallowitto transport the MPC vertically.
LBIE 2008-16 was prepared on 11/23/2007 and submitted for management approval. Holtec Report HI-2053376, Revision 5 "Thermal-Hydraulic Analyses for Diablo Canyon Site-Specific HI-STORM System Design" was provided as supporting documentation for this site specific evaluation. Other Holtec calculations and analyses were referenced in LBIE 2008-16.
This change was performed under 10 CFR 72.48 per DC's Licensing Basis Impact Evaluations (LBIEs)program.LBIE 2008-16 approved the 9" MPC-32 height reduction.
PG&E Letter DIL-08-003, dated March 20, 2008, contains the 10 CFR 72.48 Report of Changes, Tests, and Experiments for the Period of March 1,2006, through February 29, 2008.The letter indicates that there were no 72.48s completed during that time period. PG&E requested and received a one-time exemption to delay its submittal oflSFSI FSAR Update, Revision 2, to allow time to incorporate significant changes identified in the attached LBIEs.PG&E did not request a one-time exemption to delay its72.48 Report, whichwas due March 22, 2008.
During the process of preparing the LBIEs, Jearl Strickland and Terry Grebel (ISFSI Project Licensing Manager)discussed the modifications with Randy Hall,whowastheNRC Project Manager at thattime,andhisstaff.I requested that PG&E pro videmethe applicable HI-STORM 100 and ISFSI 10 CFR 72.48 evaluations.
PG&E submitted LAR #1 on April 6, 2008. The LAR made no mention of the change to the MPC height or other system changes since they were being performed under 10 CFR 72.48.
3.As stated above PG&E decidedin2007to changetoa shorter MPC thatwouldallowfor vertical transportation through the spent fuel building hatch.LBIE2008-16was preparedon11/23/2007and submitted for management approval.Holtec Report HI-2053376,Revision5"Thermal-HydraulicAnalysesfor Diablo Canyon Site-Specific HI-STORM System Design" was provided as supporting documentationforthissitespecific evaluation.
LBIE 2008-16 was approved on April 7, 2008.
Other Holtec calculations and analyses were referenced in LBIE 2008-16.PG&E Letter DIL-08-003, dated March20,2008, containsthe10 CFR 72.48 Report of Changes,Tests,and Experiments for the Period of March 1,2006 , through February 29, 2008.The letter indicates that there wereno72.48s completed during that time period.PG&E requested and received a one-time exemptiontodelayits submittal oflSFSI FSAR Update,Revision2 , toallowtimeto incorporatesignificantchanges identifiedinthe attached LBIEs.PG&E did not request a one-time exemption todelayits72.48 Report , whichwas due March22,2008.PG&E submitted LAR#1on April6,2008.The LARmadeno mentionofthe changetothe MPC height or other system changessincetheywerebeing performed under 10 CFR 72.48.LBIE2008-16was approved on April 7 , 2008.FSAR Revision 2 update was provided in June 2008, and it included the reduced height MPC.4.PG&E again stated this change was evaluated and approved per 10 CFR72.48,and thereforedidnot require NRC pre-approval.
FSAR Revision 2 update was provided in June 2008, and it included the reduced height MPC.
I stated thatmaybe true, but that the subsequent confusion that it createdattheNRC expended needless hours and wasted critical time.PG&E stated that they had discussed these changeswiththeNRC project managerin2008.I stated that althougheachspecific change was approvablevia10 CFR 72.48 ,theydid actually impactsomeoftheTS changes requestedintheLAR.5.1 indentified severalpageson non-proprietary material thathada proprietary notationonthem.Itold PG&E thatIhad correctedtheseand resentthemtothe document control desk.6.1 informed PG&E that a Proprietary Affidavit neededtobe provided for their portionofthe Proprietary RAI responses, and informedthemI neededthisassoonaspossible.Itold PG&E thatIwouldreviewthe10 CFR 72.48 evaluationsandwouldcallthem backifIhadany further questions.
4.PG&E again stated this change was evaluated and approved per 10 CFR 72.48, and therefore did not require NRC pre-approval. I stated that may be true, but that the subsequent confusion that it created at the NRC expended needless hours and wasted critical time. PG&E stated that they had discussed these changes with the NRC project manager in 2008. I stated that although each specific change was approvable via 10 CFR 72.48, they did actually impact some of the TS changes requested in the LAR .
5.1 indentified several pages on non-proprietary material that had a proprietary notation on them. I told PG&E that I had corrected these and resent them to the document control desk.
6.1 informed PG&E that a Proprietary Affidavit needed to be provided for their portion of the Proprietary RAI responses, and informed them I needed this as soon as possible.
I told PG&E that I would review the 10 CFR 72.48 evaluations and would call them back if I had any further questions.
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Conversation Record: Diablo Canyon Site Specific ISFSI, TAC L24210, Docket No. 72-26, Held on October 7, 2009
ML093060197
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Site: Diablo Canyon  Pacific Gas & Electric icon.png
Issue date: 10/07/2009
From: Goshen J
NRC/NMSS/SFST/LID/LB
To: Hagler R, Heggli G, Kabour A, Kozink K, Morin T, Parker L, Rosenbaum E, Strickland J
Holtec, Pacific Gas & Electric Co
Goshen, JM, NNSS/SFST, 492-3325
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Page 1 NRC FORM 699 U.S. NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION DATE (9-2003 )

10/07/2009 CONVERSATION RECORD TIME 3:30pm NAME OF PERSON(S) CONTACTED OR IN CONTACT WITH YOU TELEPHONE NO.

See below I 805-545-4162 ORGANIZAT ION PG&E. HoUec SUBJECT Clarification of Responses to Diablo Canyon site specific ISFSI LAR #1

SUMMARY

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Pacific Gas and Electric (PG&E)- Rich Hagler, Greg Heggli, Larry ParkerT, Chris Pendleton,hrl Strickland Holtec - Adam Kabo, Kelly Kozink, Tammy Morin, Evan Rosenbaum Contacted PG&E to I.Clarify several RAI responses provided on September 1, 2009.

2.Discuss the confusion regarding the Diablo Canyon (DC) references to the Holtec generically licensed HI-STORM 100 MPC 32, and DC 's intent to utilize a 9" shortened version of the standard MPC 32.

3.The time line of the change of the MPC 32 design in relation to LAR 1 and the June 2008 FSAR revision update.

4.Have PG&E explain why the change in the MPC 32 design was not addressed 1 referenced in the LAR.

5.Discuss editorial discrepancies on several pages. Proprietary stamps were provided on several pages on one attachment that was non-proprietary.

6.PG&E's need to provide a separate Proprietary Affidavit for its specific proprietary documents. PG&E had provided only the Holtec Proprietary Affidavit for HoUec's proprietary portion of the RAI response.

Discussion 1.1 asked DC to identify new information in the RAI responses that was not provided in the base LAR. I had reviewed the LAR along with the RAIs and RAI responses and was having difficulty determining what specific new information was provided versus what was just clarification. Most of the new information pertained discussed the effect of the reduction of the standard MPC 32 by 9" and the effect that had on the thermal, hydraulic and confinement evaluations. PG&E stated that it was their belief that they had mostly clarified information that had been previously provided in the original LAR. I asked PG&E to 'provide a table showing the RAls along with the references to information provided in the original LAR. I also clarified the materials RAIs #12, 13, and 14. The NRC's RAI request of April 9, 2009, requested that PG&E revise the FSAR to clarify specific items. The intent of the RAls was for PG&E to provide responses to specific situations, and then commit to revising the FSAR in the future to include these responses. Therefore, PG&E responses to RAIs 12, 13, and 14 will become regulatory commitments.

Continue on Page 2 ACTION REQUIRED PG&E to provide copy of 10 CFR 72.48 evaluations used in adopting a shortened version ofMPC 32 PG&E to provide affadavit for their proprietary responses.

NAME OF PERSON DOCUMENTING CONVERSATION John Goshen ISIGNATURE ~ 1/ DATE 10/30/2009 ACTION TAKEN Reviewed 10 CFR 72.48 evaluations and forwarded to Thermal and Containment Branch PG&E provided affadavit on 10/28/09.

TITLE OF PERSON TAKING ACTION ISIGNATURE OF PERSON TAKING ACTION DATE Proiect Manaaer 10/30/2009 NRC FORM 699 (9-2003) PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER

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SUMMARY

(Continue on Page 3) 2.Holtec stated that during the original licensing process of the HI-STORM 100 system it was decided not to specify a design height of any of the proposed MPCs. This was to allow for different site specific requirements. The height used in the original analyses was 170 ". Holtec's intent was to allow users the flexibility to vary the height for their specific applications, and then either perform bounding analyses or have Holtec provide specific site specific calculations. Therefore PG&E's continued references to an MPC-32 as approved in HI-STORM 100 general license certificate 1014 amendment 1 is correct even though the height was reduced by 9" to meet DC's requirements. In its original license application DC intended to use the " target" MPC 32 which required DC to transport the MPC horizontally out the spent fuel building hatch. In 2007 DC made the decision to change to a shortened model that would allow it to transport the MPC vertically. This change was performed under 10 CFR 72.48 per DC's Licensing Basis Impact Evaluations (LBIEs) program. LBIE 2008-16 approved the 9" MPC-32 height reduction. During the process of preparing the LBIEs, Jearl Strickland and Terry Grebel (ISFSI Project Licensing Manager) discussed the modifications with Randy Hall, who was the NRC Project Manager at that time, and his staff. I requested that PG&E provide me the applicable HI-STORM 100 and ISFSI 10 CFR 72.48 evaluations.

3.As stated above PG&E decided in 2007 to change to a shorter MPC that would allow for vertical transportation through the spent fuel building hatch.

LBIE 2008-16 was prepared on 11/23/2007 and submitted for management approval. Holtec Report HI-2053376, Revision 5 "Thermal-Hydraulic Analyses for Diablo Canyon Site-Specific HI-STORM System Design" was provided as supporting documentation for this site specific evaluation. Other Holtec calculations and analyses were referenced in LBIE 2008-16.

PG&E Letter DIL-08-003, dated March 20, 2008, contains the 10 CFR 72.48 Report of Changes, Tests, and Experiments for the Period of March 1,2006, through February 29, 2008.The letter indicates that there were no 72.48s completed during that time period. PG&E requested and received a one-time exemption to delay its submittal oflSFSI FSAR Update, Revision 2, to allow time to incorporate significant changes identified in the attached LBIEs.PG&E did not request a one-time exemption to delay its72.48 Report, whichwas due March 22, 2008.

PG&E submitted LAR #1 on April 6, 2008. The LAR made no mention of the change to the MPC height or other system changes since they were being performed under 10 CFR 72.48.

LBIE 2008-16 was approved on April 7, 2008.

FSAR Revision 2 update was provided in June 2008, and it included the reduced height MPC.

4.PG&E again stated this change was evaluated and approved per 10 CFR 72.48, and therefore did not require NRC pre-approval. I stated that may be true, but that the subsequent confusion that it created at the NRC expended needless hours and wasted critical time. PG&E stated that they had discussed these changes with the NRC project manager in 2008. I stated that although each specific change was approvable via 10 CFR 72.48, they did actually impact some of the TS changes requested in the LAR .

5.1 indentified several pages on non-proprietary material that had a proprietary notation on them. I told PG&E that I had corrected these and resent them to the document control desk.

6.1 informed PG&E that a Proprietary Affidavit needed to be provided for their portion of the Proprietary RAI responses, and informed them I needed this as soon as possible.

I told PG&E that I would review the 10 CFR 72.48 evaluations and would call them back if I had any further questions.

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