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Philadelphia Electric Company
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Docket Nos. 50-352
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TESTIMONY   OF RALPH J. HIPPERT AND DONALD F. TAYLOR FOR THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA-       -
50-353
REGARDING LIMERICK ECOLOGY ACTION ADMITTED OFFSITE. EMERGENCY PLANNING CONTENTIONS. LEA-ll, 12, 13, 14(a), 14(b), 15, 22, 26 Introduction The purpose of_this testimony is to respond to         certain contentions   raised   by   Limerick       Ecology Action     (LEA) h                                 concerning   offsite   emergency       planning for the   Limerick Generating Station. Ralph J. Hippert       and Donald   F. . Taylor are   officials- of   the   Pennsylvania       Emergency   Management Agency   (PEMA). Their   professional       qualifications     are
-(Limerick Generating Station,
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attached to this testimony.
Units 1 and 2)
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TESTIMONY OF RALPH J. HIPPERT AND DONALD F. TAYLOR FOR THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA-REGARDING LIMERICK ECOLOGY ACTION ADMITTED OFFSITE. EMERGENCY PLANNING CONTENTIONS. LEA-ll, 12, 13, 14(a), 14(b), 15, 22, 26 Introduction The purpose of_this testimony is to respond to certain contentions raised by Limerick Ecology Action (LEA) h concerning offsite emergency planning for the Limerick Generating Station.
Ralph J.
Hippert and Donald F.. Taylor are officials-of the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency (PEMA).
Their professional qualifications are attached to this testimony.
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                                          -The draft Chester and             Montgomery County and School District RERP's are deficient in that there is insufficient information available to reasonably assure that there will be enough buses to evacuate the schools, both public and private, in one lift.
-The draft Chester and Montgomery County and School District RERP's are deficient in that there is insufficient information available to reasonably assure that there will be enough buses to evacuate the schools, both public and
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This   contention                                 is structured                         around                                                             the basic question:     Have arrangements                               been                       made   to                                             ensure           that sufficient buses will be readily                                               available to evacuate                                                                   the schools within the EPZ?                                   Ancillary questions are then posed as follows:
This contention is structured around the basic question:
: 1. What assurance is there that designated bus companies will actually provide the buses needed?
Have arrangements been made to ensure that sufficient buses will be readily available to evacuate the schools within the EPZ?
: 2. Are letters of agreement with bus companies definitive in setting forth the obligations of each party and can the agreements be enforced?
Ancillary questions are then posed as follows:
: 3. Do the plans have to include preassignment of buses to specific schools?
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What assurance is there that designated bus companies will actually provide the buses needed?
: 4. Will the normal or emergency-related bus requirements of school districts outside the EPZ impede the availability of buses needed for evacuation?
2.
: 5. What procedures are, or should be, in place to ensure that designated buses from outside the area of normal school bus resources can be timely and effectively utilized?
Are letters of agreement with bus companies definitive in setting forth the obligations of each party and can the agreements be enforced?
: 6. Does Chester County have written agreements with bus companies to provide buses needed for evacuation of school children?
3.
                                                                                                                                                                                    \
Do the plans have to include preassignment of buses to specific schools?
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Will the normal or emergency-related bus requirements of school districts outside the EPZ impede the availability of buses needed for evacuation?
5.
What procedures are, or should be, in place to ensure that designated buses from outside the area of normal school bus resources can be timely and effectively utilized?
6.
Does Chester County have written agreements with bus companies to provide buses needed for evacuation of school children?
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It is PEMA's posit' ion'that :should an evacuation become necessary arrangements must be 'in place to ensure the
action can       be accomplished'in       a timely manner by using one                 j lift       rather than   multiple . bus- trips.         This   requires     a coordinated       effort by many parties.         The first   step is for each       risk school district       to' determine     how many   buses it will require       and the number that are'readily'available.               If the' buses .are       not   owned   by   the   school   district     then consideraion         must ~   be   given     to   the   impact   of prior scheduling       by the   supplier on the prompt       availabilityL of-the       buses needed.     After this determination         has been made the school districts then notify their respective                 county.as to the number of         buses available to them and the shortages, k         if any, that must be met           to   effect a     one-lift evacuation.
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Each risk       county   emergency management agency then tries to arrange to meet.       these shortages from resources         within     the county.         If' this cannot be       done the     county   reports     its total       school bus shortage as an       " unmet need" to     PEMA. It--
action can be accomplished'in a timely manner by using one j
now becomes PEMA's responsibility,               in coordination with_the Pennsylvania Department           of Transportation,       to   fill   these unmet       needs by   arranging     to   utilize bus resources       from 1
lift rather than multiple. bus-trips.
counties outside         the Plume EPZ.     If this cannot be done the i
This requires a
i           ultimate       recourse is   for PEMA to ask       FEMA for   assistance from adjoining states.         This is,     and   has been, the concept
coordinated effort by many parties.
!          ' to     fill unmet needs for       response to any       emergency   within the     Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.           In short, the procedure that is in effect         to satisfy     resource shortages is for the township or borough to go to its county and the county to L
The first step is for each risk school district to' determine how many buses it will require and the number that are'readily'available.
If the' buses.are not owned by the school district then consideraion must ~
be given to the impact of prior scheduling by the supplier on the prompt availabilityL of-the buses needed.
After this determination has been made the school districts then notify their respective county.as to the number of buses available to them and the shortages, k
if any, that must be met to effect a one-lift evacuation.
Each risk county emergency management agency then tries to arrange to meet.
these shortages from resources within the county.
If' this cannot be done the county reports its total school bus shortage as an
" unmet need" to PEMA.
It--
now becomes PEMA's responsibility, in coordination with_the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation, to fill these unmet needs by arranging to utilize bus resources from 1
counties outside the Plume EPZ.
If this cannot be done the i
i ultimate recourse is for PEMA to ask FEMA for assistance from adjoining states.
This is, and has been, the concept
' to fill unmet needs for response to any emergency within the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
In short, the procedure that is in effect to satisfy resource shortages is for the township or borough to go to its county and the county to L


PEMA     rather       than                   for   direct     negotiations--township         to borough or county to county.                             (R. Hippert)
PEMA rather than for direct negotiations--township to borough or county to county.
: 2.     In   accordance                         with     the   Pennsylvania       Emergency Management. Services Code,                           P.L. 1332,     No. 323,     Section 1, codified in 35 Pa. C.S.A.,                             PEMA,   in   developing     plans for emergency     response, is                         charged     with.the   duty     and   power
(R. Hippert) 2.
      "<t>o   plan and make arrangements                             for the availability       and use   of   any private facilities,                           services and property and, if necessary,         and if in fact                     used, provide for payment for use under terms           and conditions agreed upon."                         35 Pa. C.S.A.
In accordance with the Pennsylvania Emergency Management. Services Code, P.L.
Sectin   7313(10).                     Given this         defined     responsibility       and authority it is incumbent upon   PEMA,   acting on behalf       of the   Commonwealth           and in coordination with the Pennsylvania Department       of     Transportation,                       to   make     feasible     and effective     arrangements                         to   ensure     that   any   school   bus shortage   reported to it by the risk counties will indeed be filled if     an       evacuation                     becomes necessary.       The   need for these arrangements                           is further     emphasized in     35 Pa. C.S.A.
: 1332, No. 323, Section 1, codified in 35 Pa. C.S.A.,
Section   7301(f) (4) ,- which -empowers the Governor, "<s>ubject to   any   applicable                         requirements       for   compensation     under Section 7313(10)         ...                <to>   commandeer or utilize any private property if necessary to                           cope with the disaster emergency."
: PEMA, in developing plans for emergency response, is charged with.the duty and power
(R. Hippert)
"<t>o plan and make arrangements for the availability and use of any private facilities, services and property and, if necessary, and if in fact used, provide for payment for use under terms and conditions agreed upon."
: 3. On September 10,                         1984, PEMA received notification           from the Chester       County                   Department     of Emergency     Services     by letter dated September                           4, 1984 that the county had an unmet need for 134 buses.                         Subsequent contact with the county                         .
35 Pa. C.S.A.
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Sectin 7313(10).
Given this defined responsibility and authority it is incumbent upon
: PEMA, acting on behalf of the Commonwealth and in coordination with the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation, to make feasible and effective arrangements to ensure that any school bus shortage reported to it by the risk counties will indeed be filled if an evacuation becomes necessary.
The need for these arrangements is further emphasized in 35 Pa. C.S.A.
Section 7301(f) (4),- which -empowers the Governor, "<s>ubject to any applicable requirements for compensation under Section 7313(10)
<to>
commandeer or utilize any private property if necessary to cope with the disaster emergency."
(R. Hippert) 3.
On September 10, 1984, PEMA received notification from the Chester County Department of Emergency Services by {{letter dated|date=September 4, 1984|text=letter dated September 4, 1984}} that the county had an unmet need for 134 buses.
Subsequent contact with the county 4
 
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evacuate school children and 54 for the evacuation of persons without transportation, the handicapped and others not able to leave.by private automobiles.
Although-PEMA was advised by Chester. county that these figures should be considered subject to
: change, no revisions have been received.
(R. Hippert) 4.
On October 23,
: 1984, the Montgomery County Office of Emergency Preparedness transmitted to PEMA two -copies of its Draft 7,
dated October
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Plan for Incidents at the Limerick Generation Station.
evacuate    school  children    and  54    for  the  evacuation of persons without    transportation, the handicapped and          others not  able to leave.by    private    automobiles.      Although- PEMA was  advised by    Chester. county that these figures should be considered    subject  to  change,      no  revisions    have  been received.    (R. Hippert)
Upon checking Appendix Q-1, Annex 0 of this plan, PEMA learned that Montgomery County needed 387 buses and had that quantity available from within the county, and l--
: 4. On  October 23,  1984,    the Montgomery County Office of Emergency Preparedness      transmitted to        PEMA  two -copies of its Draft    7,  dated October    1984,    Radiological    Emergency Response    Plan   for Incidents     at   the   Limerick Generation Station. Upon   checking Appendix Q-1, Annex 0 of this plan, PEMA   learned that   Montgomery County needed 387         buses   and
thus was reporting no unmet bus needs for the evacuation of schools.
,    had   that   quantity   available from       within   the county, and l--
This was the first formal indication that PEMA had from Montgomery County regarding adequacy of buses.
thus was reporting no unmet bus needs for the             evacuation of schools. This   was the first     formal indication that       PEMA had   from Montgomery     County regarding       adequacy of   buses.
While Montgomery County did report a
While   Montgomery County   did     report   a   shortage   of seven
shortage of seven
      " coach buses,"   PEMA subsequently       learned that- these were not required for     school   evacuation.     PEMA is not     aware of the   status   of agreements     regarding these 387 buses since j     there are no     agreements included in Annex T, Agreements and Statements   of Understanding,       of   the referenced     Draft   7.
" coach buses,"
Annex   T indicates     that     many     agreements     are   under development.     (R. Hippert)
PEMA subsequently learned that-these were not required for school evacuation.
: 5. The Southeastern   Pennsylvania Transportation           Authority (SEPTA) maintains a large fleet of buses to serve its five k __
PEMA is not aware of the status of agreements regarding these 387 buses since j
there are no agreements included in Annex T, Agreements and Statements of Understanding, of the referenced Draft 7.
Annex T
indicates that many agreements are under development.
(R. Hippert) 5.
The Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (SEPTA) maintains a large fleet of buses to serve its five k


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county   area,   Bucks,     Chester,   Delaware,   Montgomery,       and Philadelphia. SEPTA   is therefore     the logical     source   for filling the unmet bus needs of       Chester   County.     While   the Governor has authority to       commandeer the     needed buses,       it agreements   and/or   implementing   procedures     should     be   in Place to ensure     that the. buses are and will be available to meet   the   shortage   in   Chester     County. While     PEMA   is responsible for making       these arrangements,     the     Department of   Transportation     has   the   expertise   to     provide   the technical     information     regarding     assemblage     of   buses,.
: area, Bucks,
estimated   travel   times   to   transportation staging       areas, fair compensation for use of       buses   and   similar procedures l     or   conditions   that   should   be addressed.     PEMA     and   the l
: Chester, Delaware, Montgomery, and Philadelphia.
Department   of- Transportation,     together   with     their legal l
SEPTA is therefore the logical source for filling the unmet bus needs of Chester County.
I counsels are   developing     a proposed   agreement     that   could provide   for filling   the   unmet   needs   without the need to commandeer   buses. If this   effort fails,   the agreed-upon procedures   will   be   invoked in   support of     the Governor's l
While the Governor has authority to commandeer the needed buses, it agreements and/or implementing procedures should be in Place to ensure that the. buses are and will be available to meet the shortage in Chester County.
commandeering   of buses.     When   the proposed       agreement   i s --
While PEMA is responsible for making these arrangements, the Department of Transportation has the expertise to provide the technical information regarding assemblage of buses,.
l completed, PEMA     and   the   Department   of Transportation, in conjunction with     Chester County, intend to meet with           SEPTA and/or other bus     companies that may be able       and willing to agree in advance to meet the       bus shortages needed to effect a one-lift evacuation       of school   children. At   present it appears that such an     agreement should be between the county l     involved   and the bus company, with the Commonwealth serving as the   catalyst for     its consummation. The   Board     will be i
estimated travel times to transportation staging
: areas, fair compensation for use of buses and similar procedures l
or conditions that should be addressed.
PEMA and the l
l Department of-Transportation, together with their legal I
counsels are developing a proposed agreement that could provide for filling the unmet needs without the need to commandeer buses.
If this effort fails, the agreed-upon procedures will be invoked in support of the Governor's l
commandeering of buses.
When the proposed agreement i s --
l completed, PEMA and the Department of Transportation, in conjunction with Chester County, intend to meet with SEPTA and/or other bus companies that may be able and willing to agree in advance to meet the bus shortages needed to effect a
one-lift evacuation of school children.
At present it appears that such an agreement should be between the county l
involved and the bus company, with the Commonwealth serving as the catalyst for its consummation.
The Board will be i
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to- the ongoing. status and progress being made   by' PEMA     to resolve the                     unmet   bus   needs of'Chester County.     (R. Hippert)'
as to-the ongoing. status and progress being made by' PEMA to resolve the unmet bus needs of'Chester County.
LEA-12                                                       1 The draft Montgomery, Chester, and Berks. County RERP's and the School District. RERP's are- not capable of being implemented because there is not reasonable-         assurance.. that there                       will     be         -
(R. Hippert)'
sufficient numbers of teachers and staff required                                         ,
LEA-12 The draft Montgomery, Chester, and Berks. County RERP's and the School District. RERP's are-not capable of being implemented because there is not reasonable-assurance.. that there will be sufficient numbers of teachers and staff required j
j to stay at . school during a radiological emergency                                                     I if sheltering           is             recommended .as a protective                                   !
to stay at. school during a radiological emergency if sheltering is recommended.as a
measure, or that there will be sufficient numbers                                                       l of     school . staff                     available to evacuate with children in'           .the . event                 of   a     radiological emergency.           Therefore,                   children     are       not_                       .
protective measure, or that there will be sufficient numbers of school. staff available to evacuate with children in'
adequately protected by the draft RERP's.                                                             !
.the. event of a
The   thrust       of       this         contention     is based     upon- the question:     Will there                   be     sufficient   teachers     and   school
radiological emergency.
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Therefore, children are not_
staff available       to ensure                   the safety of school children' in the   event ~ ~ sheltering                   or   evacuation     should   be required?
adequately protected by the draft RERP's.
The thrust of this contention is based upon-the question:
Will there be sufficient teachers and school
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staff available to ensure the safety of school children' in the event ~ ~ sheltering or evacuation should be required?
Supporting questions are:
Supporting questions are:
: 1. What basis is there for presuming that teachers or                             - -
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school staff will stay on duty during a radiological emergency?                       How will collective i
What basis is there for presuming that teachers or school staff will stay on duty during a radiological emergency?
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bargaining agreements impact upon this presumption?
bargaining agreements impact upon this presumption?
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What is the basis for the apparent assumption in l
the plans that school buildings are adequate for l
sheltering as a protective action?
sheltering as a protective action?
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: 4.        Can the capability to implement school district plans only be demonstrated by conducting unannounced evacuation and sheltering drills?                                                        ,
: 6.        The~ availability of                                        teachers      and school        staff      in the event of an accident at Limerick is                                                      a question that must be re' solved at the                                school district level, and is one that must be          confronted by school                                          officials in planning to meet                  any major disaster, .whether man-caused                                                      or natural.        If either sheltering or                              evacuation should become                            necessary,          classes j                          could                    be                combined                          and      thereby          the        normal students-to-teacher ratio                                                    could  be    reduced.      It  is        not, however,                      a feasible solution to                                  report    an alleged lack of teachers                    or        staff              as an            unmet    need and      expect it to be filled by personnel from outside the EPZ.                                                            The time element _ _.
and          problems involved in                                          relying on    such      an  alternative would indeed                            hinder,                    and        in  all    likelihood preclude,              a prompt and safe                                  evacuation                    of  the school        children.          (R.
Hippert)
: 7.        At          present, school district plans are                                          written so          that the          risk            school                  teachers                are not only      to accompany            the children                    to        the host school but                          are also to        remain        with them until                        they            are picked                  up by    their parents or              other
                                                                                                                                                              ':y


authorized     individuals.           Although       not                                           the             procedure preferred by     PEMA, it is permissible- if                               acceptable to and desired   by the schoo'l       districts.         The         course                                             of   action preferred by PEMA is for           the risk teachers to accompany the children   to the   host school teachers and                                           officials.                         This permits the risk- teachers           to be released                                       to                   care for       or rejoin   their   own families who'may also                     be involved in the evacuation.       While this       could       pose     some                                       problems at the host school, they are more of             an administrative nature                                                           and do not have the     impact of those           confronting                                                     risk teachers concerned     with the safety of their own families as                                                                 well as that   of   the   children       under their       charge.                                                   An   agreement between the host and risk           school       districts                                                     should resolve any   supposed administrative           roadblocks               preventing                                               use of j       this alternate procedure.             This alternative might assist                                                             a risk school     district to ensure that more of                                                               their teachers would be available         t'o supervise       the     children                                                   during the evacuation phase only.           (R. Hippert)
3.
: 8. In   response         to   the   question           raised                                                   about     the suitability     of   school       buildings         for                       sheltering,                                   the Pennsylvania     Department of       Environmental Resources, Bureau of   Radiation     Protection       states       in     paragraph                                                   10.2.2.2, Appendix     12,   Annex       E   to   the     Commonwealth's                                                       Disaster Operations     Plan   that,     "in   the     general                                     climate                     of   the Commonwealth,     any     building     which       is     reasonably                                                     winter worthy     will   suffice,       with     windows         and                                                 doors     tightly closed."     Sheltering as       a   protective         action                                                 is   a   topic
Are ongoing training programs an effective means of informing teachers and staff concerning the nature and scope of a potential radiological emergency?
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4.
Can the capability to implement school district plans only be demonstrated by conducting unannounced evacuation and sheltering drills?
6.
The~ availability of teachers and school staff in the event of an accident at Limerick is a question that must be re' solved at the school district level, and is one that must be confronted by school officials in planning to meet any major disaster,.whether man-caused or natural.
If either sheltering or evacuation should become necessary, classes j
could be combined and thereby the normal students-to-teacher ratio could be reduced.
It is
: not, however, a feasible solution to report an alleged lack of teachers or staff as an unmet need and expect it to be filled by personnel from outside the EPZ.
The time element _ _.
and problems involved in relying on such an alternative would indeed
: hinder, and in all likelihood preclude, a
prompt and safe evacuation of the school children.
(R.
Hippert) 7.
At present, school district plans are written so that the risk school teachers are not only to accompany the children to the host school but are also to remain with them until they are picked up by their parents or other
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authorized individuals.
Although not the procedure preferred by PEMA, it is permissible-if acceptable to and desired by the schoo'l districts.
The course of action preferred by PEMA is for the risk teachers to accompany the children to the host school teachers and officials.
This permits the risk-teachers to be released to care for or rejoin their own families who'may also be involved in the evacuation.
While this could pose some problems at the host school, they are more of an administrative nature and do not have the impact of those confronting risk teachers concerned with the safety of their own families as well as that of the children under their charge.
An agreement between the host and risk school districts should resolve any supposed administrative roadblocks preventing use of j
this alternate procedure.
This alternative might assist a
risk school district to ensure that more of their teachers would be available t'o supervise the children during the evacuation phase only.
(R. Hippert) 8.
In response to the question raised about the suitability of school buildings for sheltering, the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Resources, Bureau of Radiation Protection states in paragraph 10.2.2.2, Appendix 12, Annex E
to the Commonwealth's Disaster Operations Plan
: that, "in the general climate of the Commonwealth, any building which is reasonably winter worthy will
: suffice, with windows and doors tightly closed."
Sheltering as a
protective action is a
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addressed: in Lthe training that is available,-and                       has been presented to   teachers Land       school staffs participating. in this training.     (R. H'ppert) i LEA-13 There must be specific. and adequate. plans for children. in day care, -nursery and pre-school programs in order to provide reasonable assurance that this particularly sensitive segment of the:                                                               -
addressed: in Lthe training that is available,-and has been presented to teachers Land school staffs participating. in H'ppert) i this training.
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LEA-13 There must be specific. and adequate. plans for children. in day care, -nursery and pre-school programs in order to provide reasonable assurance that this particularly sensitive segment of the:
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population i.s adequately protected.
population i.s adequately protected.
l The contention is centered around the basic question:
The contention is centered around the basic question:
Has adequate   and   specifics planning               been accomplished               to ensure the safety     and protection of children in                 day             care, nursery   and preschool     facilities?               Additional   questions                                       ,
Has adequate and specifics planning been accomplished to ensure the safety and protection of children in day
are:
: care, nursery and preschool facilities?
: 1. Have the transportation needs to evacuate day care, nursery and preschool facilities been determined and can they be met?
Additional questions are:
: 2. Do municipal and county plans identify all licensed, as well as unlicensed day care, nursery.                               --
1.
Have the transportation needs to evacuate day care, nursery and preschool facilities been determined and can they be met?
2.
Do municipal and county plans identify all licensed, as well as unlicensed day care, nursery.
and preschool facilities within the EPZ?
and preschool facilities within the EPZ?
: 3. Have arrangements been made for preassignment of the transportation resources needed to evacuate these facilities?
3.
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Have arrangements been made for preassignment of the transportation resources needed to evacuate these facilities?
: 4. What will be the basis for a decision to implement sheltering at these facilities?
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What will be the basis for a decision to implement sheltering at these facilities?
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: 9.   'A model plan for use by day care,               nursery an'd preschool facilities has been developed             by PEMA     in coordination with the. Pennsylvania           Departments       of   Education 'and     Public Welfare.     These two: departments subsequently sent. copies               of the 'model         plan   to 'their licensed day. care, nursery           and preschool       facilities     within     the   Limerick-Plume . EPZ ' and advised     them       of the necessity     of   preparing     a   plan   for response to an accident at Limerick.. Unlicensed                   facilities have   subsequently         been identified and       have   been. advised
 
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9.
through the risk counties of the need for                 a plan and howcto obtain help in developing one.             (R. Hippert)
'A model plan for use by day care, nursery an'd preschool facilities has been developed by PEMA in coordination with the. Pennsylvania Departments of Education 'and Public Welfare.
The model plan provides policy             guidelines, recommended procedures         for   notifying   parents     in   the event     of   an accident and         a   detailed   listing of     actions   to   be taken under each         emergency classification.         A   sample   letter to parents         is'   included   in   the   model   plan with     explicit reference       as     to the action     that would     be taken   by   the facility.       (R. Hippert) 1
These two: departments subsequently sent. copies of the 'model plan to 'their licensed day. care, nursery and preschool facilities within the Limerick-Plume. EPZ ' and advised them of the necessity of preparing a
: 10. Although provisions         have been made in the         model plan for   parents       to be notified to pick up their           children at a
plan for response to an accident at Limerick.. Unlicensed facilities have subsequently been identified and have been. advised through the risk counties of the need for a plan and howcto
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obtain help in developing one.
(R. Hippert)
The model plan provides policy guidelines, recommended procedures for notifying parents in the event of an accident and a
detailed listing of actions to be taken under each emergency classification.
A sample letter to parents is' included in the model plan with explicit reference as to the action that would be taken by the facility.
(R. Hippert) 1 10.
Although provisions have been made in the model plan for parents to be notified to pick up their children at a
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Site   or     General Emergency, the facility           director also has
Site or General Emergency, the facility director also has
      -the option of arranging for this action                 at the Alert stage.
-the option of arranging for this action at the Alert stage.
It   is   the     responsibility     of   the   facility     director   to determine       a location to     host the     children     in   the   event evacuation is necessary.             Reference to the designated         host site is to be included in           the   1.etter to parents, and       they I
It is the responsibility of the facility director to determine a location to host the children in the event evacuation is necessary.
Reference to the designated host site is to be included in the 1.etter to parents, and they I
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are expressly" advised to pick ~up their. children         at this-location if an evacuation' takes place.                             (R. Hippert)
are expressly" advised to pick ~up their. children at this-location if an evacuation' takes place.
: 11.         While         the model           plan indicates       that -transportation
(R. Hippert) 11.
-                required :for                   evacuation. is the responsibility of                   -the facility,                 it   also advises 'the facility to contact                   its municipal                 emergency management coordinator               or   the " county emergency management                         agency, if     necessary, for     assistance be
While the model plan indicates that -transportation required :for evacuation. is the responsibility of -the
                          ~
: facility, it also advises 'the facility to contact its municipal emergency management coordinator or the " county emergency management agency, if necessary, for assistance in developing.
in         developing.           a       plan.       The   facility     plan   must
a plan.
!              coordinated                 with         the   municipal     plan   and . prudent   and
The facility plan must be
<                responsible                 action by the         two ' parties     should   result   in 1
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resolution                 of   any- transportation             difficulties.     If not, 4
coordinated with the municipal plan and. prudent and responsible action by the two ' parties should result in 1
referral to the county                         would be the     common   sense approach to meeting the need.                         (R. Hippert)
resolution of any-transportation difficulties.
: 12.           A         listing         of   day     care,   nursery   and   preschool facilities should                     appear     in the respective municipal plans and         corresponding                 county   plans.     In   view of the     effort recently                 expanded         to   identify     both   the     licensed   and unlicensed facilities, there                           is no viable reason     why   this __
If not, 4
cannot be done.                   (R. Hippert)
referral to the county would be the common sense approach to meeting the need.
(R. Hippert) 12.
A listing of day
: care, nursery and preschool facilities should appear in the respective municipal plans and corresponding county plans.
In view of the effort recently expanded to identify both the licensed and unlicensed facilities, there is no viable reason why this cannot be done.
(R. Hippert)
LE A-14 (a)
LE A-14 (a)
The           School     District       RERP's     and   the   Chester, Berks, and Montgomery County RERP's                       are deficient i                           because there are inadequate provisions of units of dosimetry-KI for school bus drivers, teachers, or school staff who may be required to remain in the EPZ for prolonged periods of time or who may be required to make multiple trips into the EPZ in       the event of a radiological emergency due to l                           shortages of equipment and personnel.
The School District RERP's and the
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: Chester, Berks, and Montgomery County RERP's are deficient i
because there are inadequate provisions of units of dosimetry-KI for school bus drivers, teachers, or school staff who may be required to remain in the EPZ for prolonged periods of time or who may be required to make multiple trips into the EPZ in the event of a radiological emergency due to l
shortages of equipment and personnel.
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F This contention raises the specific' question:
F This contention raises the specific' question:
Why do. not     school     . districts     and   Berks,   Chester,       and j       Montgomery     County   plans . include       provisions     for   issuing dosimetry. and       KI   to   school. bus drivers,. teachers, 'and school staff.     Accompanying questions are:
Why do. not school
: 1. Will all school buses be required to pass through the transportation-staging area before reporting i-               to schools being evacuated?             If not, how will the drivers obtain' dosimetry and KI?
. districts and
: 2. How many units of dosimetry /KI will be available at the-transportation staging areas for Berks, Chester, and Montgomery Counties and what was the basis for determining that this amount would be i               adequate?
: Berks, Chester, and j
: 3. Since sheltering could be recommended shouldn't teachers and school staff be issued dosimetry and trained in its use?
Montgomery County plans. include provisions for issuing dosimetry. and KI to school. bus drivers,. teachers, 'and school staff.
: 13. As   explained       in     response   to LEA-ll     it   is     PEMA's position-     that   evacuation       of   the     school     children     be accomplished     in a one-lift bus move, and PEMA has no reason to doubt that       this   can     be accomplished.       As   previously 1       indicated, definitive         action is     being taken to ensure that reported   unmet     bus   needs     can   be   filled.     This       will       .
Accompanying questions are:
therefore     preclude the         necessity   for multiple     trips     and accordingly there       is   no   need   to   have dosimetry       or   KI s
1.
Will all school buses be required to pass through the transportation-staging area before reporting i-to schools being evacuated?
If not, how will the drivers obtain' dosimetry and KI?
2.
How many units of dosimetry /KI will be available at the-transportation staging areas for Berks, Chester, and Montgomery Counties and what was the basis for determining that this amount would be i
adequate?
3.
Since sheltering could be recommended shouldn't teachers and school staff be issued dosimetry and trained in its use?
13.
As explained in response to LEA-ll it is PEMA's position-that evacuation of the school children be accomplished in a one-lift bus move, and PEMA has no reason to doubt that this can be accomplished.
As previously 1
indicated, definitive action is being taken to ensure that reported unmet bus needs can be filled.
This will therefore preclude the necessity for multiple trips and accordingly there is no need to have dosimetry or KI s
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      'available for bus         drivers, teachers                 or school staff.                 Once l                                                                                                                               0 the   evacuation       of   .the       school         children       is . effectively l     . underway and all       buses     are enroute to host schools, .there is no requirement. for         teachers               or staff     to remain at the risk school     district ~or     within the. EPZ,                 and thus no need for them   to   be issued either dosimetry. or                       KI. Dosimetry and KI are issued         only to emergency workers, and school bus L     drivers, teachers         and school staff                 are     not   considered in this category for~the reasons indicated above. (R. Hippert)                   .
'available for bus drivers, teachers or school staff.
: 14. The   one-lift       concept           pertains           not   only     to             the evacuation of school children but also to                           all persona to be
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;      evacuated     by bus.       This         in principle would eliminate                             the necessity for having         any dosimetry                 or   KI available at the transportation     staging areas.                 As   a contingency         there                 is certainly     nothing     wrong in maintaining a limited supply of dosimetry     and KI at the       staging             area for potential use in meeting an     unforeseen development.                     The     maintenance               of a supply   for     routine     issue         of       drivers     of   vehicles                 is , -
0 the evacuation of
however,   not   necessary in view of                   the     one-lift     concept.
.the school children is. effectively l
(R. Hippert)
. underway and all buses are enroute to host schools,.there is no requirement. for teachers or staff to remain at the risk school district ~or within the. EPZ, and thus no need for them to be issued either dosimetry. or KI.
: 15. As   stated earlier,             school         staffs are not considered emergency     workers     and     therefore               will     not     be       issued dosimetry     and   need       not           be       trained     in' its     use.                 If sheltering     becomes     necessary               the   decision     will     be upon recommendations       from the Bureau                 of   Radiation       Protection, utilizing monitoring         data           from its       own     sources, ' federal l
Dosimetry and KI are issued only to emergency workers, and school bus L
drivers, teachers and school staff are not considered in this category for~the reasons indicated above. (R. Hippert) 14.
The one-lift concept pertains not only to the evacuation of school children but also to all persona to be evacuated by bus.
This in principle would eliminate the necessity for having any dosimetry or KI available at the transportation staging areas.
As a contingency there is certainly nothing wrong in maintaining a limited supply of dosimetry and KI at the staging area for potential use in meeting an unforeseen development.
The maintenance of a supply for routine issue of drivers of vehicles is, -
: however, not necessary in view of the one-lift concept.
(R. Hippert) 15.
As stated earlier, school staffs are not considered emergency workers and therefore will not be issued dosimetry and need not be trained in' its use.
If sheltering becomes necessary the decision will be upon recommendations from the Bureau of Radiation Protection, utilizing monitoring data from its own sources, ' federal l
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  ,  agencies and the plant         itself.     Similarly, the decision to terminate sheltering would         be based on data                                 from the     same sources. School staffs       are considered part of the- general public     and dosimetry.is       not issued to the                       populace           as     a precondition to determining           the initiation                       or           termination of sheltering as a' protective action.               (R. Hippert)
agencies and the plant itself.
Similarly, the decision to terminate sheltering would be based on data from the same sources.
School staffs are considered part of the-general public and dosimetry.is not issued to the populace as a
precondition to determining the initiation or termination of sheltering as a' protective action.
(R. Hippert)
LEA-14(b)
LEA-14(b)
The Chester, Berks, and Montgomery County School'                                               -
The Chester, Berks, and Montgomery County School' District RERP's fail to provide reasonable assurance that school bus drivers, teachers, or other school staff are properly trained for radiological emergencies.
District RERP's         fail   to     provide reasonable assurance that school           bus   drivers,   teachers, or other school staff are properly trained                                             for radiological emergencies.
For the second part of this contention the question is:
For   the second   part     of this contention the                               question is:     Have   the. school bus       drivers,     teachers, and                             school staff received     adequate training to enable them                                     to respond effectively in the event of           a radiological emergency?                                   What is   the basis for this determination?               Follow-on                           questions are:
Have the. school bus
: 1. Have they been trained to deal with contaminated                                             __
: drivers, teachers, and school staff received adequate training to enable them to respond effectively in the event of a radiological emergency?
individuals and equipment?
What is the basis for this determination?
: 2. Have they been advised as to the hazards of radiation exposure and the use of equipment to ensure their safety?
Follow-on questions are:
: 3. Do teachers and staff know what areas of the school building cr complex are to be used for sheltering?
1.
Have they been trained to deal with contaminated individuals and equipment?
2.
Have they been advised as to the hazards of radiation exposure and the use of equipment to ensure their safety?
3.
Do teachers and staff know what areas of the school building cr complex are to be used for sheltering?
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: 4. .Has any training been accomplished as to the handling of the potential stress and anxiety that
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.Has any training been accomplished as to the handling of the potential stress and anxiety that
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could be_ displayed.by the school children during a radiological emergency?
could be_ displayed.by the school children during a radiological emergency?
            -5.- Are bus drivers familiar with the routes they are to use?
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Are bus drivers familiar with the routes they are to use?
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      '16. Training specific to the                 needs of school'. bus       drivers,-
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teachers   and' school staffs for response                 to~   an accident at' 4
Training specific to the needs of school'. bus drivers,-
Limerick   has         been   and       continues-to     be   offered.     It is available   through         contact       with   the   emergency management agency for the respective risk county.                   (D. Taylor, R. Hippert).
teachers and' school staffs for response to~
: 17. School bus         drivers,       school staffs and         teachers   will have   been ' evacuated               prior   to any   release of radioactive material   from the Limerick facility.                 Hence,     there   is   no need   for   training in               dealing   with   contaminated       persons and/or equipment for these groups.                     Further, in the       remote possibility that           decontamination may become necessary,               the' ~
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involved   individuals               and   equipment would     be referred     to decontamination centers at the                 periphery of       the plume EPZ, or at the mass care centers. (D. Taylor)
Limerick has been and continues-to be offered.
: 18. Similarly,           school staff personnel will not             be issued dosmetry because they will                 have been evacuated prior to any release   of radioactive               material from the facility.         Hence, i       there is   no         need   for instruction in the use of dosimetry.                         '
It is available through contact with the emergency management agency for the respective risk county.
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(D. Taylor, R. Hippert).
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School bus
: drivers, school staffs and teachers will have been ' evacuated prior to any release of radioactive material from the Limerick facility.
: Hence, there is no need for training in dealing with contaminated persons and/or equipment for these groups.
Further, in the remote possibility that decontamination may become necessary, the' ~
involved individuals and equipment would be referred to decontamination centers at the periphery of the plume EPZ, or at the mass care centers. (D. Taylor) 18.
Similarly, school staff personnel will not be issued dosmetry because they will have been evacuated prior to any release of radioactive material from the facility.
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there is no need for instruction in the use of dosimetry.
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: 19. If bus drivers .are not familiar with the                     routes         they are to travel     then provisions must be made             to provide them with strip maps.     (R.. Hippert)
19.
LEA-15 The Chester. and Montgomery County RERP's and the School District RERP's are not capable of being implemented       because         the provisions made                     to                         )
If bus drivers.are not familiar with the routes they are to travel then provisions must be made to provide them with strip maps.
provide bus drivers who are committed to being-available during a radiological emergency, or even during       preliminary ' stages of alert are inadequate.                                               ,
(R.. Hippert)
Like     LEA-ll,         this   contention     deals             with     the availability of sufficient buses to effect                 an evacuation of the school children but           becomes more definitive ~by                 raising i     the question:     Even if sufficient buses are available, will L
LEA-15 The Chester. and Montgomery County RERP's and the School District RERP's are not capable of being implemented because the provisions made to provide bus drivers who are committed to being-available during a
there be enough drivers to             man them?     Follow-on               questions k     are:
radiological emergency, or even during preliminary ' stages of alert are inadequate.
: 1. Are there letters of agreement with the bus companies to provide drivers as well as buses?
Like LEA-ll, this contention deals with the availability of sufficient buses to effect an evacuation of the school children but becomes more definitive ~by raising i
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the question:
: 2. Do employment or union contracts authorize or conversely prohibit, the utilization of bus drivers to evacuate school children during a radiological emergency?           If authorized, have the drivers been preidentified?
Even if sufficient buses are available, will L
: 3. Are bus drivers aware that some of them may be
there be enough drivers to man them?
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are:
1.
Are there letters of agreement with the bus companies to provide drivers as well as buses?
2.
Do employment or union contracts authorize or
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conversely prohibit, the utilization of bus drivers to evacuate school children during a radiological emergency?
If authorized, have the drivers been preidentified?
3.
Are bus drivers aware that some of them may be needed after the evacuation to transport the children from host schools to mass care centers?
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        #              4. Have cons'iderations been given to the possibility that drivers living within the EPZ may give a higher priority to evacuating their own families I'                           than to transporting-school children out of.the EPZ?' What is to preclude this from happening?
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Have cons'iderations been given to the possibility that drivers living within the EPZ may give a higher priority to evacuating their own families I'
: 5. Has the possibility of drivers being required to make multiple trips to effect.the evacuation been addressed in the ongoing training programs?
than to transporting-school children out of.the EPZ?' What is to preclude this from happening?
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: 20. As stated in       response to LEA-ll, .Chester County. has identified for       PEMA the County's unmet bus needs.         In   the case 'of. Montgomery County, the     County has advised PEMA by copy   of Annex 0, Draft       47   that there   are   no   unmet   bus needs.     This   information   does   not   include     the   nature, number     or   language   of any   existing   coiunty/ bus company agreements.     Therefore PEMA is not in a       position to comment on   the   specific     points raised   in   this   contention.     In making arrangements to fill         reported   unmet needs PEMA will ensure that procedures are       established to provide       a   drive for each bus being made available.           When   arranging to fill unmet needs     PEMA gives priority     to those necessary for the evacuation     of   school   children.     The   requirement       for identifiable resources to fill both         the unmet bus needs       of schools and     the   geaaral public is recognized       and   will be handled accordingly.       (R. Hippert)
Has the possibility of drivers being required to make multiple trips to effect.the evacuation been addressed in the ongoing training programs?
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As stated in response to LEA-ll,.Chester County. has identified for PEMA the County's unmet bus needs.
In the case 'of.
Montgomery County, the County has advised PEMA by copy of Annex 0, Draft 47 that there are no unmet bus needs.
This information does not include the
: nature, number or language of any existing coiunty/ bus company agreements.
Therefore PEMA is not in a position to comment on the specific points raised in this contention.
In making arrangements to fill reported unmet needs PEMA will ensure that procedures are established to provide a
drive for each bus being made available.
When arranging to fill unmet needs PEMA gives priority to those necessary for the evacuation of school children.
The requirement for identifiable resources to fill both the unmet bus needs of schools and the geaaral public is recognized and will be handled accordingly.
(R. Hippert)
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I The . State,       County, and Municipal RERP's' are inadequate because farmers who - may be designated as emergency workers in               order       to tend         to livestock       in   the   event       of a     radiological emergency       have     not been       provided     adequate training and dosimetry.
The. State,
For   this     contention the issue         is:   Have     farmers who
: County, and Municipal RERP's' are inadequate because farmers who - may be designated as emergency workers in order to tend to livestock in the event of a
,                  reenter the EPZ as             emergency workers after an evacuation to
radiological emergency have not been provided adequate training and dosimetry.
                  ' tend       livestock       received   adequate _ training           and   will sufficient           dosimetry   be   available?         Follow-on     questions are:
For this contention the issue is:
: 1. Have the actual-number of farmers who would be in this category been identified?
Have farmers who reenter the EPZ as emergency workers after an evacuation to
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' tend livestock received adequate _ training and will sufficient dosimetry be available?
: 2. Will sufficient dosimetry be available to allow
Follow-on questions are:
      .                          for multiple reentries?
1.
: 3. What does the definition of " livestock" include?
Have the actual-number of farmers who would be in this category been identified?
: 4. Will an informational brochure be issued to farmers?       If so, when and how often?                               ---
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: 5. In addition to ongoing tra silog will refresher-training be offeref       5., L a ers on a regular basis?
Will sufficient dosimetry be available to allow for multiple reentries?
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: 21.       In   recognizing       farmers     with livestock       in the EPZ as emergency           workers, PEMA has     made no attempt         to   limit the l
What does the definition of " livestock" include?
definition of livestock nor to restrict- what                     is meant by a farmer        with livestock to the U.S. Department of Agriculture I -
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(USDA) list.           It is the     responsibility of the           county USDA
Will an informational brochure be issued to farmers?
If so, when and how often?
5.
In addition to ongoing tra silog will refresher-training be offeref 5.,
L a ers on a regular basis?
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In recognizing farmers with livestock in the EPZ as emergency workers, PEMA has made no attempt to limit the l
definition of livestock nor to restrict-what is meant by a I -
with livestock to the U.S. Department of Agriculture farmer (USDA) list.
It is the responsibility of the county USDA


i l       agent,   the   county     emergency   management       agency       and     the b                                                       comprehensive list and municipalities involved to develop a ensure that it is as complete as           possible.       Dosimetry must then   be available for the number of farmers so                   identified.
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It   is not' necessary, however, to have additional dosimetry available   for   multiple     reentries     or     replenishment           of supplies.-     Dosimeters     are   not   expendable       items.         Each farmer   will be     issued   two   self-reading dosimeters and                 a permanent-record         dosimeter,     as   well       as     KI     and       a Dosimetry-KI Report Form when authorized access to the                       EPZ.
: agent, the county emergency management agency and the b
The self-reading       dosimeters     can   be   used over         again,       if necessary, rezeroing       on   dosimetry # argers located at                 the issuing   points. The pernanent-record         dosimeters are to be used only     be the individuals to whom originally issued, and g    are   to   be   retained     by   that   person       until     no   further reentries are to be made into the EPZ.             (R. Hippert)
municipalities involved to develop a comprehensive list and ensure that it is as complete as possible.
: 22. The reference to       farmers with, or who keep,               livestock is found in several places in Annex E to the               Commonwealth's Disaster   Operations Plan.         See   paragraphs       II.M. (6)       page E-16-2, V.A. pages E-16-B-8 and           9,   Tab 6,     Attachment B on page   E-16-B-6-1       and VI.C l. page     E-17-8.       In none       of the references is     the phrase limited or restricted to any                   type of livestock.     (R. Hippert)
Dosimetry must then be available for the number of farmers so identified.
: 23. While     PEMA     will   provide       for     the   training         of instructors     or   a   course   of     instruction,         it     is     the responsibility     of the counties to       train municipalities and~
It is not' necessary, however, to have additional dosimetry available for multiple reentries or replenishment of supplies.-
Dosimeters are not expendable items.
Each farmer will be issued two self-reading dosimeters and a
permanent-record dosimeter, as well as KI and a
Dosimetry-KI Report Form when authorized access to the EPZ.
The self-reading dosimeters can be used over
: again, if necessary, rezeroing on dosimetry # argers located at the issuing points.
The pernanent-record dosimeters are to be used only be the individuals to whom originally issued, and are to be retained by that person until no further g
reentries are to be made into the EPZ.
(R. Hippert) 22.
The reference to farmers with, or who keep, livestock is found in several places in Annex E to the Commonwealth's Disaster Operations Plan.
See paragraphs II.M. (6) page E-16-2, V.A. pages E-16-B-8 and 9,
Tab 6, Attachment B on page E-16-B-6-1 and VI.C l. page E-17-8.
In none of the references is the phrase limited or restricted to any type of livestock.
(R. Hippert) 23.
While PEMA will provide for the training of instructors or a
course of instruction, it is the responsibility of the counties to train municipalities and~
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organizations in                                                                                         their   respective . areas see paragraph II,
organizations in their respective. areas see paragraph II,
          ' Appendix                                       19,                                         Annex           E,   Commonwealth       Disaster. Operations Plan).                       This would include training.for . farmers in                                                                                                             the use
' Appendix 19, Annex E,
          -of_ dosimetry.                                                                                         The   existence =     'of   an   Emergency                                 Workers.
Commonwealth Disaster. Operations Plan).
Instructor' Course'is                                                                                         specifically referenced           irr paragraph III.H, page E-19-2 'of Annex E.                                                                                             -(R. Hippert)' Such training is   currently -available                                                                                           and   has been offered         tol-farmers affected                                         by                                   Limerick.- Such training . will                         continue,to be made available to all farmers in the plume EPZ. (D. Taylor)
This would include training.for. farmers in the use
: 24.         An                                             informational                                           brochure     was     prepared                                   by   the Pennsylvania' Department of Agriculture                                                                                               for   distribution to farmers                                 within                                                         the plume     EPZ   of   the     Three Mile                                   Island Nuclear                                 Station.                                                           The   brochure could       be adapted                                   by   the Department of                                                                                   Agriculture,             in conjunction       with PEMA, for k
-of_ dosimetry.
use   within the                                                                                       Limerick     plume   EPZ.     The applicant could then print and distribute the brochure within                                                                                                 the                           Limerick EPZ, as was the case in the TMI area.                                                                                                 (R. Hippert)
The existence =
LEA-26                                                                     __
'of an Emergency Workers.
The Draft                                                                                         County       and Municipal RERP's                                     are deficient in that                                                                                             they do not comply with 10 C.F.R.                                                                                           50.4 7 (b) (5)     because       there     'is                                 no assurance of prompt notification of. emergency workers who must be in place before an evacuation alert                                                                     can be implemented, and there                                       is                               no assurance of                                                                                         adequate     capability   to   conduct     route
Instructor' Course'is specifically referenced irr paragraph III.H, page E-19-2 'of Annex E.
  ,                alerting.
-(R. Hippert)' Such training is currently -available and has been offered tol-farmers affected by Limerick.- Such training. will continue,to be made available to all farmers in the plume EPZ. (D. Taylor) 24.
: 25.           This                                                   contention                               was apparently       developed under                                     the assumption                                                             that county                               and municipal       EOCs   must be                                   fully mobilized,                                                                       and                     emergency     workers     in-place,     before                                   the
An informational brochure was prepared by the Pennsylvania' Department of Agriculture for distribution to farmers within the plume EPZ of the Three Mile Island Nuclear Station.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                't
The brochure could be adapted by the Department of Agriculture, in conjunction with PEMA, for k
use within the Limerick plume EPZ.
The applicant could then print and distribute the brochure within the Limerick EPZ, as was the case in the TMI area.
(R. Hippert)
LEA-26 The Draft County and Municipal RERP's are deficient in that they do not comply with 10 C.F.R.
50.4 7 (b) (5) because there
'is no assurance of prompt notification of. emergency workers who must be in place before an evacuation alert can be implemented, and there is no assurance of adequate capability to conduct route alerting.
25.
This contention was apparently developed under the assumption that county and municipal EOCs must be fully mobilized, and emergency workers in-place, before the
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          'public can     be alerted:by                     activation of           the siren     system.
'public can be alerted:by activation of the siren system.
The sirens'can       be activated from the communication centers, manned   24-hours     a         day, in each of'the risk counties.                             In the   unlikely     situation                     that     an   accident         escalates       so rapidly   that   only         minimal mobilization,                     if     any,. can be.
The sirens'can be activated from the communication centers, manned 24-hours a
achieved,     the   sirens.                   could.     be- activated         by   on-duty personnel     in   the         communication centers, after                         telephonic coordination between PEMA' and the risk county coordinators.
day, in each of'the risk counties.
Activation woald be               acomplished, however, only upon                         order of the county       coordinator to                     his communication center                 and after   appropriate verification                           as   to the validity         of the order. This would indeed be a worst                             case situation and is used only to illustrate that the degree                                 of emergency worker mobilization     has       little               relation       to     the capability         for j         activating     the   sirens.                   While route         alerting would not be possible     in   this           worst-case               scenario,       it     is   but     a supplemental system to be used if necessary.                                   (R. Hippert)
In the unlikely situation that an accident escalates so rapidly that only minimal mobilization, if any,. can be.
: 26. The   sole purpose of                     activation         of the     sirens is to alert   the public to             tune           their radios or TVs to the               EBS.
: achieved, the sirens.
It is   not an     automatic notification                         to   evacuate.       In     a situation   moving         as             fast   as     that       referenced       above, evacuation     would         not             really     be   a   feasible'       option     and sheltering     would           be             the     protective         action       to     be recommended.       Broadcast                   of such a       message     over     the     EBS could   also be handled                     without     mobilization of the           county EOC.   (R. Hippert)
could.
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be-activated by on-duty personnel in the communication centers, after telephonic coordination between PEMA' and the risk county coordinators.
Activation woald be acomplished, however, only upon order of the county coordinator to his communication center and after appropriate verification as to the validity of the order.
This would indeed be a worst case situation and is used only to illustrate that the degree of emergency worker mobilization has little relation to the capability for j
activating the sirens.
While route alerting would not be possible in this worst-case
: scenario, it is but a
supplemental system to be used if necessary.
(R. Hippert) 26.
The sole purpose of activation of the sirens is to alert the public to tune their radios or TVs to the EBS.
It is not an automatic notification to evacuate.
In a
situation moving as fast as that referenced
: above, evacuation would not really be a
feasible' option and sheltering would be the protective action to be recommended.
Broadcast of such a message over the EBS could also be handled without mobilization of the county EOC.
(R. Hippert)
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: 27. As. indicated in   paragraph V. B., page E-8-2,       Appendix 8   of Annex- E   to the   Commonwealth's       Disaster Operations Plan, the sirens may be sounded:
 
: 1. When there is significant information that will reassure the public of their safety.
27.
: 2. When the public is to be informed of a plant status that may lead them to implement.. specific actions on their own.
As. indicated in paragraph V.
: 3. When specific actions (to include protective r
B., page E-8-2, Appendix 8
of Annex-E to the Commonwealth's Disaster Operations Plan, the sirens may be sounded:
1.
When there is significant information that will reassure the public of their safety.
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When the public is to be informed of a plant status that may lead them to implement.. specific actions on their own.
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When specific actions (to include protective r
actions) are to be taken by the public.
actions) are to be taken by the public.
: 28.     This   contention   appears   erroneously     to   equate activation     of the sirens only   to     "an   evacuation alert".
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While   an orderly and effective evacuation would necessitate i
This contention appears erroneously to equate activation of the sirens only to "an evacuation alert".
nearly   full mobilization of   emergency workers, .the sirens
While an orderly and effective evacuation would necessitate i
!    could be activated for any of     the purposes enumerated above l     well before this degree of mobilization is reached.
nearly full mobilization of emergency workers,.the sirens could be activated for any of the purposes enumerated above l
well before this degree of mobilization is reached.
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PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS Ralph J. Hippert I am the Deputy Director, Plans and Preparedness for the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency. I am involved in planning response to man-made and natural disasters at the State, county and municipal level with emphasis on potential accidents at fixed nuclear facilities.
PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS Ralph J. Hippert I am the Deputy Director, Plans and Preparedness for the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency.
I am involved in planning response to man-made and natural disasters at the State, county and municipal level with emphasis on potential accidents at fixed nuclear facilities.
I joined the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency in July, 1980, as a planner in the areas referenced abcVe and assumed my present position in May, 1981. For several months prior.to that I was a consultant working on municipal preparedness plans for communities surrounding 'IMI.
I joined the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency in July, 1980, as a planner in the areas referenced abcVe and assumed my present position in May, 1981. For several months prior.to that I was a consultant working on municipal preparedness plans for communities surrounding 'IMI.
In October,1979, I completed over 32- years of active and reserve military service with the last seven years on active duty as a faculty member.at the U.S. Army War College. I have held Army Reserve assignments from platoon-leader to battalion commander to deputy commander of brigade size units. These assignments. included responsibility for     _
In October,1979, I completed over 32-years of active and reserve military service with the last seven years on active duty as a faculty member.at the U.S. Army War College. I have held Army Reserve assignments from platoon-leader to battalion commander to deputy commander of brigade size units. These assignments. included responsibility for mobilization planning and response to. civil disturbances, such as the Watts Riot in Los Angeles.
mobilization planning and response to. civil disturbances, such as the Watts Riot in Los Angeles.
My civilian positions were: Public Relations Manager for a multi-plant international company; Advertising Manager for the same concern; and Assistant to the Sales Manager for the Agricultural Division of an international chemical company.
My civilian positions were: Public Relations Manager for a multi-plant international company; Advertising Manager for the same concern; and Assistant to the Sales Manager for the Agricultural Division of an international chemical company.
I hold a.B.S. in Business Administration from the University of California and a M.A. in Political Science from Shippensburg State College.
I hold a.B.S. in Business Administration from the University of California and a M.A. in Political Science from Shippensburg State College.
I am a graduate of the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College and the Amy War College.
I am a graduate of the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College and the Amy War College.
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BldGRAPHY OF DONALD F. TAYLOR Donald F. Taylor is presently the Director of Training and Education for the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency. His office is in Harrisburg, but he conducts a wide variety of training sessions throughout the Commonwealth.
Mr. Taylor, a native of western Pennsylvania, received his bachelor's ' degree from Geneva College, which is located in Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania. He completed graduate work on two master's degrees and a doctorate at the University of Pittsburgh.
Mr. Taylor, a native of western Pennsylvania, received his bachelor's ' degree from Geneva College, which is located in Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania. He completed graduate work on two master's degrees and a doctorate at the University of Pittsburgh.
His employment.with the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania began in April, _1977 when he was named as the Nuclear Civil Protection                           ,
His employment.with the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania began in April, _1977 when he was named as the Nuclear Civil Protection Officer add charged to develop the Pennsylvania Crisis Relocation Plan.
Officer add charged to develop the Pennsylvania Crisis Relocation Plan.
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Mr. Taylor has also been active in several business ventures.
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TESTIMONY OF RALPH J. HIPPERT AND DONALD F. TAYLOR FOR THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA-REGARDING LIMERICK ECOLOGY ACTION ADMITTED OFFSITE. EMERGENCY PLANNING CONTENTIONS. LEA-ll, 12, 13, 14(a), 14(b), 15, 22, 26 Introduction The purpose of_this testimony is to respond to certain contentions raised by Limerick Ecology Action (LEA) h concerning offsite emergency planning for the Limerick Generating Station.

Ralph J.

Hippert and Donald F.. Taylor are officials-of the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency (PEMA).

Their professional qualifications are attached to this testimony.

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-The draft Chester and Montgomery County and School District RERP's are deficient in that there is insufficient information available to reasonably assure that there will be enough buses to evacuate the schools, both public and

private, in one lift.

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This contention is structured around the basic question:

Have arrangements been made to ensure that sufficient buses will be readily available to evacuate the schools within the EPZ?

Ancillary questions are then posed as follows:

1.

What assurance is there that designated bus companies will actually provide the buses needed?

2.

Are letters of agreement with bus companies definitive in setting forth the obligations of each party and can the agreements be enforced?

3.

Do the plans have to include preassignment of buses to specific schools?

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Will the normal or emergency-related bus requirements of school districts outside the EPZ impede the availability of buses needed for evacuation?

5.

What procedures are, or should be, in place to ensure that designated buses from outside the area of normal school bus resources can be timely and effectively utilized?

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Does Chester County have written agreements with bus companies to provide buses needed for evacuation of school children?

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It is PEMA's posit' ion'that :should an evacuation become necessary arrangements must be 'in place to ensure the

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action can be accomplished'in a timely manner by using one j

lift rather than multiple. bus-trips.

This requires a

coordinated effort by many parties.

The first step is for each risk school district to' determine how many buses it will require and the number that are'readily'available.

If the' buses.are not owned by the school district then consideraion must ~

be given to the impact of prior scheduling by the supplier on the prompt availabilityL of-the buses needed.

After this determination has been made the school districts then notify their respective county.as to the number of buses available to them and the shortages, k

if any, that must be met to effect a one-lift evacuation.

Each risk county emergency management agency then tries to arrange to meet.

these shortages from resources within the county.

If' this cannot be done the county reports its total school bus shortage as an

" unmet need" to PEMA.

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now becomes PEMA's responsibility, in coordination with_the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation, to fill these unmet needs by arranging to utilize bus resources from 1

counties outside the Plume EPZ.

If this cannot be done the i

i ultimate recourse is for PEMA to ask FEMA for assistance from adjoining states.

This is, and has been, the concept

' to fill unmet needs for response to any emergency within the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

In short, the procedure that is in effect to satisfy resource shortages is for the township or borough to go to its county and the county to L

PEMA rather than for direct negotiations--township to borough or county to county.

(R. Hippert) 2.

In accordance with the Pennsylvania Emergency Management. Services Code, P.L.

1332, No. 323, Section 1, codified in 35 Pa. C.S.A.,
PEMA, in developing plans for emergency response, is charged with.the duty and power

"<t>o plan and make arrangements for the availability and use of any private facilities, services and property and, if necessary, and if in fact used, provide for payment for use under terms and conditions agreed upon."

35 Pa. C.S.A.

Sectin 7313(10).

Given this defined responsibility and authority it is incumbent upon

PEMA, acting on behalf of the Commonwealth and in coordination with the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation, to make feasible and effective arrangements to ensure that any school bus shortage reported to it by the risk counties will indeed be filled if an evacuation becomes necessary.

The need for these arrangements is further emphasized in 35 Pa. C.S.A.

Section 7301(f) (4),- which -empowers the Governor, "ubject to any applicable requirements for compensation under Section 7313(10)

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commandeer or utilize any private property if necessary to cope with the disaster emergency."

(R. Hippert) 3.

On September 10, 1984, PEMA received notification from the Chester County Department of Emergency Services by letter dated September 4, 1984 that the county had an unmet need for 134 buses.

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evacuate school children and 54 for the evacuation of persons without transportation, the handicapped and others not able to leave.by private automobiles.

Although-PEMA was advised by Chester. county that these figures should be considered subject to

change, no revisions have been received.

(R. Hippert) 4.

On October 23,

1984, the Montgomery County Office of Emergency Preparedness transmitted to PEMA two -copies of its Draft 7,

dated October

1984, Radiological Emergency

Response

Plan for Incidents at the Limerick Generation Station.

Upon checking Appendix Q-1, Annex 0 of this plan, PEMA learned that Montgomery County needed 387 buses and had that quantity available from within the county, and l--

thus was reporting no unmet bus needs for the evacuation of schools.

This was the first formal indication that PEMA had from Montgomery County regarding adequacy of buses.

While Montgomery County did report a

shortage of seven

" coach buses,"

PEMA subsequently learned that-these were not required for school evacuation.

PEMA is not aware of the status of agreements regarding these 387 buses since j

there are no agreements included in Annex T, Agreements and Statements of Understanding, of the referenced Draft 7.

Annex T

indicates that many agreements are under development.

(R. Hippert) 5.

The Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (SEPTA) maintains a large fleet of buses to serve its five k

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area, Bucks,
Chester, Delaware, Montgomery, and Philadelphia.

SEPTA is therefore the logical source for filling the unmet bus needs of Chester County.

While the Governor has authority to commandeer the needed buses, it agreements and/or implementing procedures should be in Place to ensure that the. buses are and will be available to meet the shortage in Chester County.

While PEMA is responsible for making these arrangements, the Department of Transportation has the expertise to provide the technical information regarding assemblage of buses,.

estimated travel times to transportation staging

areas, fair compensation for use of buses and similar procedures l

or conditions that should be addressed.

PEMA and the l

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counsels are developing a proposed agreement that could provide for filling the unmet needs without the need to commandeer buses.

If this effort fails, the agreed-upon procedures will be invoked in support of the Governor's l

commandeering of buses.

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l completed, PEMA and the Department of Transportation, in conjunction with Chester County, intend to meet with SEPTA and/or other bus companies that may be able and willing to agree in advance to meet the bus shortages needed to effect a

one-lift evacuation of school children.

At present it appears that such an agreement should be between the county l

involved and the bus company, with the Commonwealth serving as the catalyst for its consummation.

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as to-the ongoing. status and progress being made by' PEMA to resolve the unmet bus needs of'Chester County.

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LEA-12 The draft Montgomery, Chester, and Berks. County RERP's and the School District. RERP's are-not capable of being implemented because there is not reasonable-assurance.. that there will be sufficient numbers of teachers and staff required j

to stay at. school during a radiological emergency if sheltering is recommended.as a

protective measure, or that there will be sufficient numbers of school. staff available to evacuate with children in'

.the. event of a

radiological emergency.

Therefore, children are not_

adequately protected by the draft RERP's.

The thrust of this contention is based upon-the question:

Will there be sufficient teachers and school

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staff available to ensure the safety of school children' in the event ~ ~ sheltering or evacuation should be required?

Supporting questions are:

1.

What basis is there for presuming that teachers or school staff will stay on duty during a radiological emergency?

How will collective i

bargaining agreements impact upon this presumption?

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the plans that school buildings are adequate for l

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Are ongoing training programs an effective means of informing teachers and staff concerning the nature and scope of a potential radiological emergency?

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Can the capability to implement school district plans only be demonstrated by conducting unannounced evacuation and sheltering drills?

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The~ availability of teachers and school staff in the event of an accident at Limerick is a question that must be re' solved at the school district level, and is one that must be confronted by school officials in planning to meet any major disaster,.whether man-caused or natural.

If either sheltering or evacuation should become necessary, classes j

could be combined and thereby the normal students-to-teacher ratio could be reduced.

It is

not, however, a feasible solution to report an alleged lack of teachers or staff as an unmet need and expect it to be filled by personnel from outside the EPZ.

The time element _ _.

and problems involved in relying on such an alternative would indeed

hinder, and in all likelihood preclude, a

prompt and safe evacuation of the school children.

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Hippert) 7.

At present, school district plans are written so that the risk school teachers are not only to accompany the children to the host school but are also to remain with them until they are picked up by their parents or other

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authorized individuals.

Although not the procedure preferred by PEMA, it is permissible-if acceptable to and desired by the schoo'l districts.

The course of action preferred by PEMA is for the risk teachers to accompany the children to the host school teachers and officials.

This permits the risk-teachers to be released to care for or rejoin their own families who'may also be involved in the evacuation.

While this could pose some problems at the host school, they are more of an administrative nature and do not have the impact of those confronting risk teachers concerned with the safety of their own families as well as that of the children under their charge.

An agreement between the host and risk school districts should resolve any supposed administrative roadblocks preventing use of j

this alternate procedure.

This alternative might assist a

risk school district to ensure that more of their teachers would be available t'o supervise the children during the evacuation phase only.

(R. Hippert) 8.

In response to the question raised about the suitability of school buildings for sheltering, the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Resources, Bureau of Radiation Protection states in paragraph 10.2.2.2, Appendix 12, Annex E

to the Commonwealth's Disaster Operations Plan

that, "in the general climate of the Commonwealth, any building which is reasonably winter worthy will
suffice, with windows and doors tightly closed."

Sheltering as a

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LEA-13 There must be specific. and adequate. plans for children. in day care, -nursery and pre-school programs in order to provide reasonable assurance that this particularly sensitive segment of the:

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population i.s adequately protected.

The contention is centered around the basic question:

Has adequate and specifics planning been accomplished to ensure the safety and protection of children in day

care, nursery and preschool facilities?

Additional questions are:

1.

Have the transportation needs to evacuate day care, nursery and preschool facilities been determined and can they be met?

2.

Do municipal and county plans identify all licensed, as well as unlicensed day care, nursery.

and preschool facilities within the EPZ?

3.

Have arrangements been made for preassignment of the transportation resources needed to evacuate these facilities?

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What will be the basis for a decision to implement sheltering at these facilities?

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'A model plan for use by day care, nursery an'd preschool facilities has been developed by PEMA in coordination with the. Pennsylvania Departments of Education 'and Public Welfare.

These two: departments subsequently sent. copies of the 'model plan to 'their licensed day. care, nursery and preschool facilities within the Limerick-Plume. EPZ ' and advised them of the necessity of preparing a

plan for response to an accident at Limerick.. Unlicensed facilities have subsequently been identified and have been. advised through the risk counties of the need for a plan and howcto

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obtain help in developing one.

(R. Hippert)

The model plan provides policy guidelines, recommended procedures for notifying parents in the event of an accident and a

detailed listing of actions to be taken under each emergency classification.

A sample letter to parents is' included in the model plan with explicit reference as to the action that would be taken by the facility.

(R. Hippert) 1 10.

Although provisions have been made in the model plan for parents to be notified to pick up their children at a

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Site or General Emergency, the facility director also has

-the option of arranging for this action at the Alert stage.

It is the responsibility of the facility director to determine a location to host the children in the event evacuation is necessary.

Reference to the designated host site is to be included in the 1.etter to parents, and they I

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are expressly" advised to pick ~up their. children at this-location if an evacuation' takes place.

(R. Hippert) 11.

While the model plan indicates that -transportation required :for evacuation. is the responsibility of -the

facility, it also advises 'the facility to contact its municipal emergency management coordinator or the " county emergency management agency, if necessary, for assistance in developing.

a plan.

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coordinated with the municipal plan and. prudent and responsible action by the two ' parties should result in 1

resolution of any-transportation difficulties.

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referral to the county would be the common sense approach to meeting the need.

(R. Hippert) 12.

A listing of day

care, nursery and preschool facilities should appear in the respective municipal plans and corresponding county plans.

In view of the effort recently expanded to identify both the licensed and unlicensed facilities, there is no viable reason why this cannot be done.

(R. Hippert)

LE A-14 (a)

The School District RERP's and the

Chester, Berks, and Montgomery County RERP's are deficient i

because there are inadequate provisions of units of dosimetry-KI for school bus drivers, teachers, or school staff who may be required to remain in the EPZ for prolonged periods of time or who may be required to make multiple trips into the EPZ in the event of a radiological emergency due to l

shortages of equipment and personnel.

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Why do. not school

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Berks, Chester, and j

Montgomery County plans. include provisions for issuing dosimetry. and KI to school. bus drivers,. teachers, 'and school staff.

Accompanying questions are:

1.

Will all school buses be required to pass through the transportation-staging area before reporting i-to schools being evacuated?

If not, how will the drivers obtain' dosimetry and KI?

2.

How many units of dosimetry /KI will be available at the-transportation staging areas for Berks, Chester, and Montgomery Counties and what was the basis for determining that this amount would be i

adequate?

3.

Since sheltering could be recommended shouldn't teachers and school staff be issued dosimetry and trained in its use?

13.

As explained in response to LEA-ll it is PEMA's position-that evacuation of the school children be accomplished in a one-lift bus move, and PEMA has no reason to doubt that this can be accomplished.

As previously 1

indicated, definitive action is being taken to ensure that reported unmet bus needs can be filled.

This will therefore preclude the necessity for multiple trips and accordingly there is no need to have dosimetry or KI s

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. underway and all buses are enroute to host schools,.there is no requirement. for teachers or staff to remain at the risk school district ~or within the. EPZ, and thus no need for them to be issued either dosimetry. or KI.

Dosimetry and KI are issued only to emergency workers, and school bus L

drivers, teachers and school staff are not considered in this category for~the reasons indicated above. (R. Hippert) 14.

The one-lift concept pertains not only to the evacuation of school children but also to all persona to be evacuated by bus.

This in principle would eliminate the necessity for having any dosimetry or KI available at the transportation staging areas.

As a contingency there is certainly nothing wrong in maintaining a limited supply of dosimetry and KI at the staging area for potential use in meeting an unforeseen development.

The maintenance of a supply for routine issue of drivers of vehicles is, -

however, not necessary in view of the one-lift concept.

(R. Hippert) 15.

As stated earlier, school staffs are not considered emergency workers and therefore will not be issued dosimetry and need not be trained in' its use.

If sheltering becomes necessary the decision will be upon recommendations from the Bureau of Radiation Protection, utilizing monitoring data from its own sources, ' federal l

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agencies and the plant itself.

Similarly, the decision to terminate sheltering would be based on data from the same sources.

School staffs are considered part of the-general public and dosimetry.is not issued to the populace as a

precondition to determining the initiation or termination of sheltering as a' protective action.

(R. Hippert)

LEA-14(b)

The Chester, Berks, and Montgomery County School' District RERP's fail to provide reasonable assurance that school bus drivers, teachers, or other school staff are properly trained for radiological emergencies.

For the second part of this contention the question is:

Have the. school bus

drivers, teachers, and school staff received adequate training to enable them to respond effectively in the event of a radiological emergency?

What is the basis for this determination?

Follow-on questions are:

1.

Have they been trained to deal with contaminated individuals and equipment?

2.

Have they been advised as to the hazards of radiation exposure and the use of equipment to ensure their safety?

3.

Do teachers and staff know what areas of the school building cr complex are to be used for sheltering?

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Are bus drivers familiar with the routes they are to use?

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Training specific to the needs of school'. bus drivers,-

teachers and' school staffs for response to~

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Limerick has been and continues-to be offered.

It is available through contact with the emergency management agency for the respective risk county.

(D. Taylor, R. Hippert).

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School bus

drivers, school staffs and teachers will have been ' evacuated prior to any release of radioactive material from the Limerick facility.
Hence, there is no need for training in dealing with contaminated persons and/or equipment for these groups.

Further, in the remote possibility that decontamination may become necessary, the' ~

involved individuals and equipment would be referred to decontamination centers at the periphery of the plume EPZ, or at the mass care centers. (D. Taylor) 18.

Similarly, school staff personnel will not be issued dosmetry because they will have been evacuated prior to any release of radioactive material from the facility.

Hence, i

there is no need for instruction in the use of dosimetry.

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If bus drivers.are not familiar with the routes they are to travel then provisions must be made to provide them with strip maps.

(R.. Hippert)

LEA-15 The Chester. and Montgomery County RERP's and the School District RERP's are not capable of being implemented because the provisions made to provide bus drivers who are committed to being-available during a

radiological emergency, or even during preliminary ' stages of alert are inadequate.

Like LEA-ll, this contention deals with the availability of sufficient buses to effect an evacuation of the school children but becomes more definitive ~by raising i

the question:

Even if sufficient buses are available, will L

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Are there letters of agreement with the bus companies to provide drivers as well as buses?

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Do employment or union contracts authorize or

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If authorized, have the drivers been preidentified?

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Are bus drivers aware that some of them may be needed after the evacuation to transport the children from host schools to mass care centers?

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Have cons'iderations been given to the possibility that drivers living within the EPZ may give a higher priority to evacuating their own families I'

than to transporting-school children out of.the EPZ?' What is to preclude this from happening?

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Has the possibility of drivers being required to make multiple trips to effect.the evacuation been addressed in the ongoing training programs?

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As stated in response to LEA-ll,.Chester County. has identified for PEMA the County's unmet bus needs.

In the case 'of.

Montgomery County, the County has advised PEMA by copy of Annex 0, Draft 47 that there are no unmet bus needs.

This information does not include the

nature, number or language of any existing coiunty/ bus company agreements.

Therefore PEMA is not in a position to comment on the specific points raised in this contention.

In making arrangements to fill reported unmet needs PEMA will ensure that procedures are established to provide a

drive for each bus being made available.

When arranging to fill unmet needs PEMA gives priority to those necessary for the evacuation of school children.

The requirement for identifiable resources to fill both the unmet bus needs of schools and the geaaral public is recognized and will be handled accordingly.

(R. Hippert)

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County, and Municipal RERP's' are inadequate because farmers who - may be designated as emergency workers in order to tend to livestock in the event of a

radiological emergency have not been provided adequate training and dosimetry.

For this contention the issue is:

Have farmers who reenter the EPZ as emergency workers after an evacuation to

' tend livestock received adequate _ training and will sufficient dosimetry be available?

Follow-on questions are:

1.

Have the actual-number of farmers who would be in this category been identified?

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Will sufficient dosimetry be available to allow for multiple reentries?

3.

What does the definition of " livestock" include?

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Will an informational brochure be issued to farmers?

If so, when and how often?

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In addition to ongoing tra silog will refresher-training be offeref 5.,

L a ers on a regular basis?

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In recognizing farmers with livestock in the EPZ as emergency workers, PEMA has made no attempt to limit the l

definition of livestock nor to restrict-what is meant by a I -

with livestock to the U.S. Department of Agriculture farmer (USDA) list.

It is the responsibility of the county USDA

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municipalities involved to develop a comprehensive list and ensure that it is as complete as possible.

Dosimetry must then be available for the number of farmers so identified.

It is not' necessary, however, to have additional dosimetry available for multiple reentries or replenishment of supplies.-

Dosimeters are not expendable items.

Each farmer will be issued two self-reading dosimeters and a

permanent-record dosimeter, as well as KI and a

Dosimetry-KI Report Form when authorized access to the EPZ.

The self-reading dosimeters can be used over

again, if necessary, rezeroing on dosimetry # argers located at the issuing points.

The pernanent-record dosimeters are to be used only be the individuals to whom originally issued, and are to be retained by that person until no further g

reentries are to be made into the EPZ.

(R. Hippert) 22.

The reference to farmers with, or who keep, livestock is found in several places in Annex E to the Commonwealth's Disaster Operations Plan.

See paragraphs II.M. (6) page E-16-2, V.A. pages E-16-B-8 and 9,

Tab 6, Attachment B on page E-16-B-6-1 and VI.C l. page E-17-8.

In none of the references is the phrase limited or restricted to any type of livestock.

(R. Hippert) 23.

While PEMA will provide for the training of instructors or a

course of instruction, it is the responsibility of the counties to train municipalities and~

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organizations in their respective. areas see paragraph II,

' Appendix 19, Annex E,

Commonwealth Disaster. Operations Plan).

This would include training.for. farmers in the use

-of_ dosimetry.

The existence =

'of an Emergency Workers.

Instructor' Course'is specifically referenced irr paragraph III.H, page E-19-2 'of Annex E.

-(R. Hippert)' Such training is currently -available and has been offered tol-farmers affected by Limerick.- Such training. will continue,to be made available to all farmers in the plume EPZ. (D. Taylor) 24.

An informational brochure was prepared by the Pennsylvania' Department of Agriculture for distribution to farmers within the plume EPZ of the Three Mile Island Nuclear Station.

The brochure could be adapted by the Department of Agriculture, in conjunction with PEMA, for k

use within the Limerick plume EPZ.

The applicant could then print and distribute the brochure within the Limerick EPZ, as was the case in the TMI area.

(R. Hippert)

LEA-26 The Draft County and Municipal RERP's are deficient in that they do not comply with 10 C.F.R. 50.4 7 (b) (5) because there

'is no assurance of prompt notification of. emergency workers who must be in place before an evacuation alert can be implemented, and there is no assurance of adequate capability to conduct route alerting.

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This contention was apparently developed under the assumption that county and municipal EOCs must be fully mobilized, and emergency workers in-place, before the

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'public can be alerted:by activation of the siren system.

The sirens'can be activated from the communication centers, manned 24-hours a

day, in each of'the risk counties.

In the unlikely situation that an accident escalates so rapidly that only minimal mobilization, if any,. can be.

achieved, the sirens.

could.

be-activated by on-duty personnel in the communication centers, after telephonic coordination between PEMA' and the risk county coordinators.

Activation woald be acomplished, however, only upon order of the county coordinator to his communication center and after appropriate verification as to the validity of the order.

This would indeed be a worst case situation and is used only to illustrate that the degree of emergency worker mobilization has little relation to the capability for j

activating the sirens.

While route alerting would not be possible in this worst-case

scenario, it is but a

supplemental system to be used if necessary.

(R. Hippert) 26.

The sole purpose of activation of the sirens is to alert the public to tune their radios or TVs to the EBS.

It is not an automatic notification to evacuate.

In a

situation moving as fast as that referenced

above, evacuation would not really be a

feasible' option and sheltering would be the protective action to be recommended.

Broadcast of such a message over the EBS could also be handled without mobilization of the county EOC.

(R. Hippert)

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As. indicated in paragraph V.

B., page E-8-2, Appendix 8

of Annex-E to the Commonwealth's Disaster Operations Plan, the sirens may be sounded:

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When there is significant information that will reassure the public of their safety.

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When the public is to be informed of a plant status that may lead them to implement.. specific actions on their own.

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When specific actions (to include protective r

actions) are to be taken by the public.

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This contention appears erroneously to equate activation of the sirens only to "an evacuation alert".

While an orderly and effective evacuation would necessitate i

nearly full mobilization of emergency workers,.the sirens could be activated for any of the purposes enumerated above l

well before this degree of mobilization is reached.

(R. Hippert)

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PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS Ralph J. Hippert I am the Deputy Director, Plans and Preparedness for the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency.

I am involved in planning response to man-made and natural disasters at the State, county and municipal level with emphasis on potential accidents at fixed nuclear facilities.

I joined the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency in July, 1980, as a planner in the areas referenced abcVe and assumed my present position in May, 1981. For several months prior.to that I was a consultant working on municipal preparedness plans for communities surrounding 'IMI.

In October,1979, I completed over 32-years of active and reserve military service with the last seven years on active duty as a faculty member.at the U.S. Army War College. I have held Army Reserve assignments from platoon-leader to battalion commander to deputy commander of brigade size units. These assignments. included responsibility for mobilization planning and response to. civil disturbances, such as the Watts Riot in Los Angeles.

My civilian positions were: Public Relations Manager for a multi-plant international company; Advertising Manager for the same concern; and Assistant to the Sales Manager for the Agricultural Division of an international chemical company.

I hold a.B.S. in Business Administration from the University of California and a M.A. in Political Science from Shippensburg State College.

I am a graduate of the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College and the Amy War College.

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BldGRAPHY OF DONALD F. TAYLOR Donald F. Taylor is presently the Director of Training and Education for the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency. His office is in Harrisburg, but he conducts a wide variety of training sessions throughout the Commonwealth.

Mr. Taylor, a native of western Pennsylvania, received his bachelor's ' degree from Geneva College, which is located in Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania. He completed graduate work on two master's degrees and a doctorate at the University of Pittsburgh.

His employment.with the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania began in April, _1977 when he was named as the Nuclear Civil Protection Officer add charged to develop the Pennsylvania Crisis Relocation Plan.

In July,1978, Mr. Taylor was promoted to head the Office of Training and Education. He designs, implements and manages a state-wide compre-hensive training program in the field of emergency management.

Mr. Taylor has experience a.= a high school teacher, a college teacher and a college adminis rator. He has also managed political campaigns and has been a political speech writer. In addition f

to being the editor of two newsletters, he has written for both news-l papers and magazines. He served as the director of a rehabilitation center.

Mr. Taylor has also been active in several business ventures.

He presently resides in New Cumberland, Pennsylvania.

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